Law professor and author John Bessler joins DPIC executive director Robert Dunham to discuss “Against the Death Penalty,” a book version of Justice Stephen Breyer’s historic dissent in *Glossip v. Gross* in which he questions the constitutionality of the death penalty. Professor Bessler edited the book and wrote an extensive introduction explaining the significance of the opinion. In a wide-ranging conversation, Bessler and Dunham discuss the dissent itself, the national context of the decision, and the possible effects of an 8-member Supreme Court.